tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35969109.post3013344640764972396..comments2023-10-29T02:16:11.866-07:00Comments on Infelix Ego: Famous last wordsMelancholicushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11014441675379441845noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35969109.post-56276705319124517902008-08-27T02:48:00.000-07:002008-08-27T02:48:00.000-07:00HOLDIN FIRM is published I think, by Columba Press...HOLDIN FIRM is published I think, by Columba Press. It's not very good and I borrowed it from the library. The Worlock Papers, a book by and about Abp Derek Worlock of Liverpool, shows how he changed from being a pre-Vatican II unthinker to being a militant progressive unthinker.In fact at one meeting he banged the table and shouted we have a new religion and I am going to ensure that it is rigorously enforced here in this diocese [is this the true Spirit of Vatican II ?]. Alan RobinsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35969109.post-72229866376437175002008-08-26T07:24:00.000-07:002008-08-26T07:24:00.000-07:00Welcome back, Alan.I have not read Hold Firm, nor ...Welcome back, Alan.<BR/><BR/>I have not read <A HREF="http://www.columba.ie/catalogue.php?cat=Forthcoming%20Publications&ISBN=9781856075855" REL="nofollow">Hold Firm</A>, nor had I even heard of it until you left your comment, but you are right about McQuaid's attitude and that of so many other bishops at the time, namely that party loyalty and the appearance of uncontroversial stability must at all times be maintained lest anyone be scandalised. In this atmosphere, the greatest enemies of sacred tradition were not actually the conciliar revolutionaries seeking to impose a new religion upon the Church is every diocese and religious order, every parish church and institute of education, but those conservative clergy—personally orthodox—who accepted this new regime as embodying the will of the Holy See. The same “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” horror of controversy also created the climate that permitted clerical sexual misconduct to flourish unchecked for so long—in not a few instances, the bishops who shielded clerical abusers from exposure and punishment were not raving liberals at all but solid conservatives.<BR/><BR/>And most bishops in the 1960s followed this pattern. Although there were a few revolutionary lunatics like <A HREF="http://www.remideroo.com/" REL="nofollow">Remi de Roo</A>, most were personally orthodox who felt they had to go along with the novelties since this is what the council called for—and the council couldn't possibly be wrong, could it? I think in many cases they didn't really understand the nature of the changes they imposed on their dioceses. I also think the sudden about-turn after Vatican II caused much confusion among such bishops—Fulton Sheen, for instance, died in a state of total bewilderment, not knowing his left hand from his right. The novelty of episcopal collegiality also served to neutralise the initiative of individual bishops. Hence those like Lefebvre and de Castro Meyer were the very rare exception.Melancholicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11014441675379441845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35969109.post-4691003476136920362008-08-26T01:22:00.000-07:002008-08-26T01:22:00.000-07:00The recent book HOLDIN ON, John Charles Macquaide ...The recent book HOLDIN ON, John Charles Macquaide and the Second Vatican Council, showed how J.C.M. was ,like many other Irish Clericalist Conservatives, was unwilling to show that there could be any problems within the organisational and hierarchical church.He was so devoted to the Church as an institution he could not reflect upon anything that caused difficulties. This was why he "shut up" anyone who didn't go along with his "let nothing disturb you" line. I am also amazed that he was so blind as not to see how a new generation of good and orthodox clerics and assistants needed to be brought up to succeeed his regime in Dublin. He seems to have had no interest in the future of his diocese, like other "conservative" prelates Heenan of Westminster,Cowderoy of Southwark,I do believe that they were Vaticanist yes men, who kept the machine going but with no thought for what would come after : ecclesiastical ostriches, so unlike Msgr de Castro-Meyer and Msgr Lefebvre, who out of all the members of the Coetus Internationalis Patris, DID something to preserve the faith. Alan RobinsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com